Not that Chuck Amato was not already facing some level of heat for squandering a 2-0 ACC record that included wins over Boston College and Florida State but the present six game losing streak that culminated in one of the more hapless performances I have seen from a team in a rivalry game has created a firestorm he probably rather avoid. The failure to compete and being outplayed/outcoached, especially against a rival who had a fired coach on the other side is not going to make the natives happy. And when you consider this is the third straight loss to UNC, their rage will make the dissatifaction over Herb Sendek look like a mild disagreement of coaching style. The real tell-tell sign for this situation is not so much with the message board folks. That crowd is the equivalent of a fickled mistress who turns at the slightest sign of trouble. The real money is on the hard core bloggers and the local media. Let’s just say there is enough real dissatisfaction there to make Amato’s future very cloudy.
Likewise, the Wolfpack’s loss to UNC is not the cause for my, nor other Wolpackers’, desires to see Chuck Amato resign or be fired. Rather, the Pack’s loss to a team, which had not beaten a 1-A opponent until our game, demonstrates the longstanding reasons why Amato should be gone at the season’s end. Who cares whether Amato is an alum or whether he is a nice guy?!? Amato is not paid over 1/2 million dollars annually to be a faithful alum or to be a nice guy. Amato is paid to win games and win big. Chuck Amato has failed.
The idea that State needed to lose two in a row before making a change bothered us to the core because we don’t understand the difference between losing out and simply losing one of these two. Big F*ing deal?
It feels EXACTLY like TYPICAL NC State cowardly management – let’s keep changing the standard and give (insert employee here) another chance by basing our decision on a completely subjective and irrelevant standard while ignoring years of history.
But this situation isn’t all that complicated.
Amato, today, is where Bunting was after UNC dropped successive games to South Florida (37-20) and Virginia (23-0) in mid-October. He was fired three days later.
It’s right that Amato should be in this trouble, too. In the three seasons since quarterback Philip Rivers graduated, the Wolfpack’s offense has fallen into such a state of disrepair and misdirection that it’s illogical to assume that a great deal is going to change between now and September.
Wow. This really is like deja vu all over again. This was the exact place Tar Heel Nation was a month ago complaining about the lack of competiveness and the obvious indication that the program was going nowhere. Now NC State fans are in the same boat with reasonable and well respected bloggers pointing out the obvious and Caulton Tudor weighing in heavy against the coach. And having taken this trip recently let me say Wolfpack fans have every right to feel this way. I am of the opinion that if Bunting was a candidate for employment relocation then Amato most certainly is in the same predicament. As far as Chuck is concerned, the welcome wagon has left, the new carpet smell is gone from the Murphy Center, and three straight losses to a rival your were favored to beat but lost to because you didn’t show up is more than enough cause to ask for a refund on what ever Amato has been selling.
College football coaches get evaluated on where their program is at in relation to the number of years they have been there and whether or not there are signs of progress. I have heard the argument made that Amato is not that far removed from a few good years but that agrument is total hogwash. The progress of a program is evaluated based on whether it is building on the previous seasons of success. In other words once a certain level has been attained, that coach cannot consistently fall below that point or he will be fired. Sure the occasional bump in the road caused by injury or a poor recruiting class is understood but the bottom line is that the seventh year should be better than the first. That is not the case at NC State and there are so many things wrong with the way Chuck Amato coaches and the general manner in which is teams play to think it will get any better.
And one final note. While I do not subscribe to theories that members of the local media are unnecessarily biased I do find it curious that Caulton Tudor wrote two scathing columns asking for John Bunting’s head outright but when it came to Chuck Amato he took a more generalized approach of arguing why Amato’s return next season would be counter productive. I guess my question is why Tudor saw fit to swing the axe at Bunting but refrains from doing so with Amato even though, by his own admission, Amato is at the same point Bunting was at following the UVa game?
This is not an accusation per se just an observation on Tudor’s differing approach to the two situations. If anyone has a thought please share.
November 20, 2006 at 7:47 am |
Hey THF, Mark May just called me and asked how my conversation with Lee went. Has your phone rang yet?
November 20, 2006 at 9:18 am |
Well, Lee tried to call me but I do not take collect calls from fantasy worlds.
November 20, 2006 at 9:48 am |
Sometimes I find the similarity between Bunting and Amato eerie. Both are coaching their alma-mater, both are former linebackers, both were second choices after their respective schools sought bigger names, both are passionate about their schools. It’s interesting that two guys with such a similar background hate each other so much. I think it especially ironic that they with both be fired the same year and probably both be replaced by big name coaches.
I think the difference is that at first Amato inherited perhaps the best QB the ACC has seen in decades who fueled his early (and vastly overrated) success. To his credit he lit the fire under WolfPack fans who opened up their pocket books and are now hungry for some serious football. In a way I think he did himself in with all of his blabbering about national championships and big time football. If I had committed to thousands of dollars for the right to buy season tickets I would be angry now to. The Pack usually competes but I have never seen a team lose more games due to stupidity then Amato coached WP teams.
People still laugh at me when I say they have a shot at Cohwer. They should thank UNC for hiring Butch Davis because the ante has been upped!
November 20, 2006 at 10:37 am |
I think they might have a shot at Cohwer but it scares me to think about it. If it does happen we are looking at a long line of regular whippings by the pack.
November 20, 2006 at 11:33 am |
It’s hard to say how Cowher might pan out. He would be a big boost to the program publicity wise but many a pro coach has failed in college and vise-versa.
November 20, 2006 at 11:46 am |
I would take a wait and see mode on Cowher. Everyone assumes that kids would flock to play for him and that he would be successful at the college level. Those two assumptions are by no means concrete. Cowher would basically have the same learning curve as any coach who has never coached on the college level. Granted he benefits from his name and that will help in recruiting but there is more to recruiting than just being the big name. He still would have to convince five start recruits on the merits of NC State over Texas, Florida, USC, Ohio State, etc.
November 20, 2006 at 12:50 pm |
2 huge differences between Amato and Bunting:
– Who they are as people. This goes a long way towards the hate Bunting has, I’m sure.
– What they inherited when they took over their respective programs. Amato had great players handed to him. Bunting? Not so much.
So the similarities may be many, but mostly are superficial. The few things that make them different is what defines how they have been viewed and how they view each other.
November 20, 2006 at 1:04 pm |
Spirona, what do you mean by suggesting that the kind of person Bunting is has inspired hatred against him? I have nothing but respect for him as an individual and for his love for my alma mater.
November 20, 2006 at 1:58 pm |
Amato is definitely a hard person to like in terms of his arrogance and psuedo bravado. That said, I think NCSU fans loved him until reality set in and everyone realized that the Pack is a long long way from the nations elite. I think that fans of any school will tolorate alot when things are going well. When things sour, all those things that were cute and cool(e.g sunglasse and shoes) suddenly are very annoying.
Amato made Bunting angry early by essentially stealing A. J. Davis from the Heels at the last minute. While what he did was within the rules, it was one of those “unwritten rules” that most coaches abide by. I’m sure there is more to the fued than that but that certainly fueled the flame.
November 20, 2006 at 5:21 pm |
My bet is that Cowher is very very tired of coaching and the last thing he wants to do at this stage in his life is to try to convince cocky 17 year olds to come and play for him. I see him settling comfortably into a chair next to Jerome Bettis one day and doing pre-game and half-time shows for many years to come. I’m not the expert but I suspect that Amato’s mistake this year was to go with Danny Evans. Whatever the mistake, he’s made many, but I’ll bet that Amato is allowed one more year(which I understand is the length of his contract) to try and right the ship. The other option would be to have Paul Johnson sail on down from the Naval Academy.
November 20, 2006 at 9:15 pm |
Evans may have been a mistake or perhaps the best of a weak crop of QBs. Stone had more experience but it wasn’t happening with him in there either. I had thought they had a hot shot QB coming in next year.
QB and the OL hurt the Pack alot this year but I think what irks most Wolfpackers are the stupid penalties and bonehead plays at the absolute worse moments. A legacy of the Amato era.
November 22, 2006 at 9:55 am |
Richard,
You misunderstood me– I guess I wasn’t clear. I believe that one of the reasons that Bunting loathes Amato is because Amato is a loudmouthed, unnaccountable, arrogant, ass. I also respect Bunting as a person. Thus, that’s why I say they are so different.