#1 UNC vs #16 Mount St. Mary’s: Game Thread

This should be quick and quite painless….at least for UNC anyway. Comment away and I will drop my thoughts if I have any.


7:21 PM: UNC 17 MSM 12. I thought to begin with the Heels were going to just blow them slam out. MSM settled down and UNC has had a couple of defensive lapses during the early part of the game. UNC should reel off a huge run here at some point.

7:26 PM: UNC 20 MSM 12. Something tells me Roy ripped into the team about their defense. No points in the last two minutes and complete control of the boards. Green’s three just did not stay down but nice work on the offensive boards by Stepheson.

7:40 PM: Heels up 12 but I am think Roy is not too happy with the defense, especially permitting a layup off a made basket with the foul. Still UNC is up and will eventually pull away.

7:49 PM: UNC 48 MSM 33, MSM shooting 53%. That is not going to cut it. If UNC was defending better this would be a 25 point lead considering the Heels own the boards 20-5.

7:59 PM: UNC 60 MSM 41. Halftime. That was…well….very interesting. The offense is cooking and that apart from any real turnovers from MSM or that many missed shots. The defense can be described with two words: It sucked. Well it seems to have sucked though MSM hit some contested shots so I am not sure. I think Roy will be plenty pissed enough that I would not be surprised to see Blue-White at some point.

8:22 PM: Another quick 2nd half start. 6-0 run forces an MSM timeout.

8:34 PM: Heels up by a bunch. Stat of the game so far. UNC has five players in double figures with Green having zero points, Ginyard with three and Graves with two.

8:39 PM: Heels by 34. Just a complete decimation at this point with some huge play from Deon Thompson and Alex Stepheson specifically. Oh and Lawson is back in a huge way. And Ellington is hitting. And Hansbrough is on. And the defense is playing much better.

8:48 PM: UNC up huge. Anyone notice the increase in MSM turnovers and the fact they have only scored 11 points in 13 minutes of the 2nd half?

8:57 pm: Roy empties the bench with 4:39 left.

8:58 PM: There is a real shame in the fact Greg Little has returned to the football team and is not here to jack up shots.

9:04 PM: Surry Wood with the alley oop dunk!

9:05 PM: Surry Wood is going to be giving Marcus Ginyard all sorts of grief.

9:07 PM: UNC 113 MSM 74.

171 Responses to #1 UNC vs #16 Mount St. Mary’s: Game Thread

  1. 52BigGameJames says:

    had a friend who went to the practice yesterday. He noted that Tyler can bust 3’s at will. I don’t think Roy will pull it out yet, but at some point in this tourney I think we’ll see it. I’m looking for Q,Deon, Alex, Graves and Copeland to demonstrate they’re ready to contribute.

  2. Schwartzy says:

    I want to see Alex and Deon have a good game. They played terribly during the ACC tourney, which left Danny taking the 4 spot, especially during the VT game, which is not where he’s most effective. I’m hoping for ~10 points, 8 rebounds, and 4 four blocks between the two. If those two play like they had been playing during Lawson’s absence, UNC’s unstoppable.

  3. 52BigGameJames says:

    3-2 zone is probably the best defense you can run against the Heels. our D has been wholly unimpressive so far!

  4. 52BigGameJames says:

    Deon appears ready!

  5. 52BigGameJames says:

    dang-where is everybody tonight?

  6. TxTarheel says:

    i have nothing to add aside from seeing the score updating on Sportsline…regional coverage here on Okla/St Joes.

  7. 52BigGameJames says:

    I’m gonna blow a gasket if I see Marcus leave one more off the rim.

  8. 52BigGameJames says:

    how’s that one progressing?

  9. Tar Heel Fan says:

    TX….can you do MMOD at ncaasports.com?

  10. TxTarheel says:

    fairly tight game, about 20 apiece; Raftery just dropped “Longar-Longar” and “alacrity” into the same sentence. I just wonder how Verne & Raftery will hold up into game 2

    I made a feeble attempt & deferred on messing w/ downloads…having the Imac has a downside and this would be it

  11. 52BigGameJames says:

    you’re right THF–our defense is atrocious!

  12. Schwartzy says:

    They’re hitting contested shots. Stephenson’s spot on tonight.
    Wayne Drops!!

  13. 52BigGameJames says:

    looking for the clamp-down this last 3 mins.

  14. Schwartzy says:

    Green is being lazy on the perimeter.

  15. 52BigGameJames says:

    break-downs all over–I would be expecting an azz-chewing at halftime.

  16. 52BigGameJames says:

    anyone know if this is the biggest offensive output of the season?

  17. TxTarheel says:

    at PENN they put up 50 and 56 in each half, respectively…60 in a half for college is pretty big. Heck even some NBA games is pretty big

  18. Tar Heel Fan says:

    61 versus SC State in the 1st half…I only checked the 100 point games though.

  19. unc/uncwfan says:

    they look pretty good, anyone know what the ncaa tournament record is for 1st half points??

  20. william says:

    This reminds me of the last time we played a Mary Mount in the NCAA tournament, back in the late 1980’s and it was a very similar game, although that team was more highly rated nationally. I think Ranzino Smith hit like 30 in that game against Hank Gathers et. al.

  21. Tar Heel Fan says:

    For the record. UNC lead Oakland 59-33 at half in 2005 and won 96-68.

  22. william says:

    How would you like to be the Hansbrough parents? Both sons are playing at the same time, although Ben is playing much closer to home, out in Little Rock. Maybe they will go to Ben’s game, since this might be his only tournament appearance this year.

  23. Tar Heel Fan says:

    Loyala Marymount. 1988, UNC 123 LM 97 in the 2nd round.

  24. keithunc says:

    If your not able to see the game due to regional coverage go to ESPN.com and watch the game there

  25. 52BigGameJames says:

    that LM game was Dean”s “rope-a-dope” game.

  26. william says:

    Larry Holmes showed you a dope on a rope….

  27. 52BigGameJames says:

    even MJ didn’t know when it was time to quit!

  28. william says:

    Two men say they’re Jesus, one of them must be wrong….

  29. william says:

    If Foreman had fought Ali somewhere normal and used Holmes’ strategy, Ali might be in a worse state today yet….

  30. 52BigGameJames says:

    in those two cases that’s about as close as anybody gets, lol.

  31. 52BigGameJames says:

    I’m not so sure–next time you see it, watch the early rounds closely. Ali actually wasn’t that much smaller than George either.

  32. william says:

    Jimmy Young actually beat both Foreman and Ali, but got robbed of the decision against Ali.

  33. 52BigGameJames says:

    can somebody tell me about Ginyard????

  34. Tar Heel Fan says:

    What the heck Marcus?

  35. 52BigGameJames says:

    I hope Roy adresses this at the pg pc.

  36. william says:

    Ali was out on his feet in the 4th but Foreman’s legs were screwy the whole fight. This is a guy who could take a punch better than anyone except Ali. No wonder he thought someone had subtly drugged him, plus watch the count at the end–the ref stops the fight even though Foreman was up at 9….

  37. 52BigGameJames says:

    Wayne is one helluva passer!

  38. william says:

    DC was not very faithful to local team MSM’s. They switched away after ten minutes. That is why I pony up for the Directv package.

  39. william says:

    Does anyone remember the Rhode Island game in 1993? They were a 9 seed and Carolina jumped all over them and won by like 45….

  40. william says:

    Ty hit a 3!

  41. 52BigGameJames says:

    I have to disagree-I actually think Ali could’ve/should’ve put him away early. The only way GF would have won had that happened is if he tagged him with a lucky shot–which would’ve been possible.

  42. 52BigGameJames says:

    didn’t Rodl have a big night in that RI game william?

  43. william says:

    What are you talking about? Foreman was pounding Ali’s body all through the fight. The fight was basically even until Foreman’s flash knock down where he twirled to the canvas. Ali never hit him with a single haymaker. Maybe it was another micro punch…. Frazier certainly beat Ali to a pulp. I still can’t believe Ali got up in round 15 after he walked right into a haymaker by Frazier–Shavers pummelled Ali–Lyle battered him and Norton busted his jaw. I am too young to have ever seen the great Ali–I just saw the guy who got knocked around and was no better than a handful of other admittedly excellent pugs, like Young, Lyle, Frazier, Foreman and Holmes….

  44. william says:

    All I remember is that my buddy who is a UMass fan, told me that we better watch out because “Rhode Island is really good.” I guess after that all the games were tough in 1993 in the tourney.

  45. william says:

    Do the Tar Heels have a major connection to Jesus?

  46. william says:

    The A-14 is about to be eliminated from the tourney. Terrible year for the Atlantic 14

  47. 52BigGameJames says:

    do you have to ask?

  48. william says:

    Wow, Memphis State beat Siena by 44, 102-58, earlier in the year.

  49. Tar Heel Fan says:

    Siena beat Stanford which is why I picked them to beat overseeded Vandy.

  50. william says:

    What about Buddha? He would have been a major presence in the paint….

  51. william says:


  52. william says:

    JMU beat Siena. What does that say?

  53. william says:

    Anybody remember Santa Clara?

  54. william says:

    I am sure Pomeroy will say that even though Carolina won by 50, that our defense was lousy….

  55. Tar Heel Fan says:

    I am just saying Siena showed they could beat a higher ranked team and Vandy looked fairly ripe.

  56. william says:


  57. william says:

    It was a good pick. I am just saying that you can do those crazy things where like last year VPI beat UNC and UNC was rated one and yet, VPI had lost to the second worst team in the country in the Pomeroy rankings.

  58. 52BigGameJames says:

    our D has been lousy.

  59. william says:

    Were we supposed to win by a 100?

  60. 52BigGameJames says:

    we were supposed to be tuning up the defense according to Roy.

  61. william says:

    I think the Lopez twins were upset about Michael jackson’s foreclosure when they played Siena….

  62. william says:

    yeah, but how do you tune it against guys who can’t even hang with you….

  63. william says:

    I predict we drop at least 100 on MSM’s….

  64. william says:

    Stepheson is tuning up his game, James, at the right time!

  65. 52BigGameJames says:

    point taken, but just thought they’d do a little better in the first half.

  66. william says:

    Alex hits 2 free throws!

  67. william says:

    Hey, I should be doing the commentary. They are talking about the Rhode Island game.

  68. 52BigGameJames says:

    let’s go Campbell!

  69. william says:

    Maybe we can get to 113. They must have left this game nationally because I no longer have any audio feed.

  70. william says:

    Campbell just go a foul. You’re blowing it, kid!

  71. william says:

    Surrey with a fringe!

  72. william says:

    What game are you guys getting in NC? Arkansas has a crazy mountain man on its team who reminds me of my freshman roommate back in Graham….

  73. TxTarheel says:

    looks like he wandered in from a Grateful Dead concert…perhaps he is channeling a post-Bill Walton 32 years later

  74. Tar Heel Fan says:

    We have Indy-Ark right now but I think we will be switching to Clemson-Nova when it starts

  75. TxTarheel says:

    anyone know what conference these officials might be from (at the RBC Center specifically) ? this has the early looks of a Big-10 game (brickmasonry 101)

  76. Tar Heel Fan says:

    I did not see who they were when it started, now I am watching Clemson and they look good right now. A 4-0 start for the allegedly weak ACC would be great.

  77. 52BigGameJames says:

    agreed THF–I hope some of those Jayhawk fans get a taste of Clemson.

  78. william says:

    Who is the best team to be eliminated so far? I would say USC, then UConn and Gonzaga.

  79. william says:

    Yeah, but I expect no more than 2 to be alive from the ACC after Sunday.

  80. 52BigGameJames says:

    I think everybody is writing Duke off a little early.

  81. william says:

    Indiana did not lose to a single non-NCAA tourney team until March 9th, when they lost to Penn State. They then lost to Minnesota, an NIT team and seem to be trending downward and much weaker than their 25-7 record.

  82. william says:

    West Virginia is really good and has a coach who emphasizes defense, unlike in the past. I notice that Pomeroy’s system finally dropped Duke from its virtual tie with Carolina down several places after their dubious win against Belmont (not Abbey).

  83. william says:

    Now Indiana has lost a starter to injury, but not White or Gordon.

  84. 52BigGameJames says:

    is that the game you’re getting?

  85. william says:

    I get them all on DirecTv, but our local game is Clemson. Monster dunk by Arkansas.

  86. william says:

    Indiana is getting into foul trouble. Arkansas is ten of ten from the line.

  87. 52BigGameJames says:

    dayum–#2 is a big boy for IU! looks like he likes the biscuits!

  88. 52BigGameJames says:

    dayum–#2 is a big boy for IU! looks like he likes the biscuits!

  89. william says:

    I don’t see a number two out there. Ark by 10!

  90. Tar Heel Fan says:

    We had Clemson but they switched us to IU-ARK. I see Clemson is running Nova though.

  91. william says:

    Once they switch, they have to lift the block out on DirecTv.

  92. william says:

    Yep, our’s switched too, now I am getting the unblocked raw feed of the Clemson-Villanova.

  93. Tar Heel Fan says:

    So who would you rather face: IU or ARK?

  94. Tar Heel Fan says:

    Whoa, I heard that John Pelphrey can be fairly profane but just now he looks like the second coming of K.

  95. william says:

    I believe that a team should always want to play the lower seed. This is because teams can generally play up a couple of levels, but only so far. This what accounts for the VPI losing to number 336 but beating Carolina phenomenon.

    Talent-wise, Indiana could probably beat Carolina if everything went right for Indiana. I am not sure that is true for Arkansas.

  96. william says:

    In general, I am not impressed with any of the SEC teams.

  97. 52BigGameJames says:

    #2 went to the bench for a hot dog & fries.

  98. william says:

    Boise is getting back into the game.

  99. william says:

    Was it Jim Chones?

  100. william says:

    Carolina had both him and Tom Owens and both had good stats.

  101. 52BigGameJames says:

    read the link–McDaniels!

  102. william says:

    I still have my Carolina Cougars progam with a signature by Billy Cunningham that I forged to impress my friends. Strangely enough, Cunningham only used his first name for his signature….

  103. TxTarheel says:

    i’d prefer Arkansas…with a win IU could recover a whiff of what they had been prior to “Verizon-gate” when they were a top-15 team and become a little inspired by their interim-coach’s exploits vs UNC

  104. william says:

    Jim McDaniels, the former Hilltopper? I never saw a link–it must have come after i had left. Chones, McDaniels and Owens, plus Cunningham, Mack Calvin and Joe Caldwell, What a great team they were.

  105. william says:

    McDaniels must have gotten hurt after he left Carolina because he never did anything in the NBA. Jim Chones’ son was playing in the Patriot League tourney final last week.

  106. 52BigGameJames says:

    Pogo-Joe! George Lehman was maybe the best shooter I ever saw in person.

  107. william says:

    Exactly, TxTarHeel. Unless Arkansas is a young team and trending up and i must confess I don’t know a lot about them, you would always rather face the less talented team.

  108. william says:

    Was he one of the Lehman brothers?

  109. 52BigGameJames says:

    what I meant, was when they signed him, it really appeared to make them a legit contender w/Indiana & Kentucky. Cougs had good teams, but were always second tier. JM at the time was thought to be the missing piece, but not to be as we saw.

  110. william says:

    Pistol Pete made a terrible decision in turning down Carolina. That is why we got Caldwell, although his knees were beginning to go.

  111. william says:

    In 1972-73, we finished ahead of Kentucky but then they upset us 4-3 in the semi-finals. I think we won 58 games in the regular season. I am still upset about that. I was probably a bigger Cougars fan than UNC fan then, since the Cougars played 40% of their home games in Charlotte and I got to go a couple of times.

  112. 52BigGameJames says:

    did you ever see the HBO special on the ABA?


    good stuff!

  113. 52BigGameJames says:

    I had forgotten that Wuycik and Previs were on that team.

  114. 52BigGameJames says:

    I just remember what a thorn in the Cougars side was Louie Dampier.

  115. william says:

    Unlike the AFL which actually did not catch up to the NFL until about five years ago–check and see who has won many of the AFC Super Bowls, old NFL teams like Baltimore and Pittsburgh– the ABA was actually on the same level as the NBA and the ABA teams routinely won exhibition games between NBA and ABA teams.

  116. 52BigGameJames says:

    ahem–Kansas City Chiefs/Miami Dolphins?

  117. william says:

    Larry Miller, too and he was pretty good, better than I remembered. He quit basketball to pursue an acting career–that shows how low the salaries were back then–Rusty Clark probably made a good financial decision to become an M.D., instead of playing pro.

  118. 52BigGameJames says:

    I’m going to get a copy of the 68 OSU Carolina semi–I’ll send you a copy if you want.

  119. william says:

    I said many, not all. They had a few teams at the top, but look who won most of their Super Bowls in the 70’s–the Colts and Steelers. The Colts won the Super Bowl the year they switched. Miami was Baltimore South and had many old NFL guys like Shula, Fleming, and their quarterback in 1972 was the Colts’ starter in 1968.

  120. william says:

    Is it out? I went thru that link you sent me but most of them were just to get on the list for when CBS gets around to making the DVD’s….

  121. 52BigGameJames says:

    I went with a Raleigh Dolphins fan club chapter to a Ravens game in the early nineties–last year they played in Memorial Stadium. A pure dump, but man you could just feel the history of the Colts and the Orioles as you were driving up the hill. I could just imagine Unitas or Matte giving a speech to some local Boy-Scout or Church group. Glad I had that experience–a lost era for sure.

  122. william says:

    I have seen the UNC-UVA and UNC-Kentucky games from 1982 this week on MASN, but they weren’t in HD so I didn’t make DVD’s. I have a good print of the second halves of the Duke game and the ACC final–I usually only do the 2nd half because that is all that fits of a HD recording on one DVD. If we make the finals I will do both halves.

  123. 52BigGameJames says:

    DeAndre Thomas #2, heading back to the bench for a shake.

  124. william says:

    I still have my Earl Morrall autographed football–MVP in both leagues and led his two teams in 1968 and 1972 to regular season records of 27-1.

  125. william says:

    Gordon may have saved the game with a big block….

  126. william says:

    Memphis is burning it up, not!

  127. 52BigGameJames says:

    UNC/UCLA have been the statement makers so far.

  128. TxTarheel says:

    Derek Rose is a lottery pick this summer…scary good is this guy. doubtful UTA can muster a decent enough offensive response

  129. Tar Heel Fan says:

    Thomas is on the wrong team. He looks like that traditional big boy Nolan Richardson used to have on his teams. Remember the guy who chunked in the half court shot at the halftime buzzer in the 1995 Final Four?

  130. Tar Heel Fan says:

    “UNC/UCLA have been the statement makers so far.”

    On different ends of the floor

  131. william says:

    Corliss Williamson?

  132. 52BigGameJames says:

    CW was more cut than this guy. I’m thinking more like Big Baby? from LSU? or maybe a heftier Oliver Miller.

  133. 52BigGameJames says:

    he must be pretty decent, if even for a couple of minutes.

  134. william says:

    Well, we are getting to the nitty gritty and it takes a lot of concentration to watch four games at once….

  135. 52BigGameJames says:

    true THF–you share the same concern.

  136. william says:

    Well, only Clemson could blow a situation like this, with a 13 seed waiting on Sunday. It does concern me a bit that our two big rivals have looked so bad in the tourney. Maybe they left it all in Charlotte. That is why doesn’t try to win the ACC tourney very hard.

  137. Tar Heel Fan says:

    I think Oglesby has watched tapes of Greg Paulus or John Scheyer to learn how to draw that foul on the three point shot like he was called for in Cameron earlier this season.

  138. william says:

    Dumb foul by Nova

  139. Tar Heel Fan says:

    Wow…Wright just got a technical…HUGE mistake by the coach.

  140. william says:

    Technical on Jay Wright. How dumb is that? Even dumber than Ellington’s….

  141. Tar Heel Fan says:

    Must be a Philly thing.

  142. TxTarheel says:

    Memphis by 20 with 4 minutes left….yes please switch my regional coverage back to this non-compelling end of a game

  143. william says:

    True. Will Nova give the game back?

  144. william says:

    That is why I purchase the package–I want Carolina regardless of the score!

  145. william says:

    Clemson is so stupid! Now Mays fouls out.

  146. william says:

    They are going to have to try to win this in regulation with their two best players fouled out.

  147. Tar Heel Fan says:

    Wow…Clemson is doing their best to lose the game.

  148. william says:

    Oh no! Barney threw it out of bounds!

  149. william says:

    Barney misses a drive!

  150. Tar Heel Fan says:

    Refs missed the out of bounds call there.

  151. william says:

    NC State beat Villanova, sort of, anyway….

  152. william says:

    I thought they got it right.

  153. william says:

    Now that call was wrong!

  154. william says:

    They took Barney out.

  155. william says:

    Clemson is its own worst enemy. Talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

  156. william says:

    Barney is back in.

  157. william says:

    Oh well, so much for 4 ACC teams in the final 32.

  158. Tar Heel Fan says:

    No Tim Brando…It’s over.

    Oglesby is ice cold.

  159. Tar Heel Fan says:

    And the three losers to NCSU in the NCAAT are about to be 3-0.

  160. TxTarheel says:

    yeah …..CBS switched ! i shouldbe so lucky to miss the last 1:30 of this game which seemed to be a compelling end. suffering at my own expense

  161. william says:

    Boy, it must be tough being a Clemson fan. Clemson and Wake Forest (more so in the NCAA tourney) just torture their fans….

  162. william says:

    You didn’t miss much TXTarHeel. Clemson just bonked shot after shot and fouled a bunch.

  163. william says:

    Only Clemson could blow an 18 point lead against such a mediocre team….

  164. william says:

    Nice no call on the foul on Barney….

  165. william says:

    Go Siena!

  166. Tar Heel Fan says:

    I think calling him Opie would be more appropriate than Barney

  167. 52BigGameJames says:

    taking orders for my new bumper-sticker: “Marcus can’t dunk”…get em quick!

  168. Tar Heel Fan says:

    He said in his postgame interview with 850 that the ribbing now was nothing. When he got back to the hotel and turned on his cell phone the text messages would be brutal.

  169. 52BigGameJames says:

    I’m serious: I am beginning to believe he’s got something similar to a “free-throw” mental block thingy going on. He may be having problems with that foot pushing off, but even when he’s cleared everybody, he just refuses to finish appropriately. I wish one of these hacks would pin Roy down on this-right about now would be a good time to ask.

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