ACC Basketball Schedule Expansion

The ADs are desperate to lift the leagues NCAA Tournament profile but I am not sure this will get it done.

Despite being #1 in the RPI, the ACC only had four teams in the NCAA Tournament.  This concerns the league ADs to the point they are discussing expanding the basketball schedule to 18 games.

According to Jerry Palm of it will actually hurt the league RPI since it lowers the overall record of the league. It also should be noted that since the league is seen as weak right now, two more games within conference is not going to bolster the NCAA case much.

Seth Greenberg, who is pretty much desperate to do something as long as it gets his team off the bubble thinks the coaches need an open mind on the issue despite the fact they all opposed it last year when it was broached.  I think the chances of Roy and K agreeing to this are between slim and none which probably stands to effectively kill it.

Speaking for myself, I am a traditionalist and would love to see a full round robin but there is no way they are going to switch to a 22 game conference schedule.  I am also not sure adding to more games, while closer to the round robin, is worth it.

Then again if they could simply have UNC play the other seven 1980s ACC schools twice and only have the Heels play BC, Miami, VT and FSU once each then I would be all for the ACC expanding to 18 games.


12 Responses to ACC Basketball Schedule Expansion

  1. wcb22 says:

    I’m sure Roy does not like this idea because it gives him less flexibility in scheduling. But I don’t think there is any question that UNC should be playing Wake Forest twice every year. If the ACC does go to the 18 game sched., that should be a condition. Right now, the only guaranteed teams for twice a year are Duke and State I believe.

  2. Tar Heel Fan says:

    Yes, I would want to see Wake twice. Seriously if I only saw the “football” schools once I would be happy.

  3. MinnyTarHeelFan says:

    This only serves to help those teams that traditionally finish in the middle/lower half of the league. It guarantees them two games vs. UNC and Dook, most likely. It will hurt those at the top, like UNC (and Dook when they used to play meaningful non-conference games instead of Cornell and St. John’s.) Va. Tech and others should just schedule tougher non-conference games and win them.

  4. Josh Bowling says:

    I currently like the non-conference games. If we could get the benefit of non-conference officiating, I’d be for an 18game ACC schedule.

  5. 52BigGameJames says:

    maybe we should schedule a “Challenge” with the lower half of the Big East…only half-joking here.

  6. Johnny says:

    If they want to help the conference RPI they should deport a couple of schools from the league.

  7. Tar Heel Fan says:


    I agree. Greenberg and Gary Williams both want some magical fix that will allow them to continue to schedule Directional School State. Jim Boheim is the same way. They want the NCAA bids handed to them without doing what the committee has clearly shown must be done to impress them. VT could have benefited from another game with UNC and Duke during the regular season. Then again, there is a good chance they would have lost both of them which means adding two games does not mean a darn thing if you do not win them.

  8. David W says:

    Until the ACC is precievd as being strong again then playing an 18 or 22 game schedule will not help. A move to 18 games and it could end up hurting the Tar Heels ranking because that takes games away from our out of conference schedule and may mean fewer bigtime match ups. As for VT and Maryland. They just need to win games away form the conference. Miami and Clemson (Both football schools) played decent to good out of conference games. If you wan to get into the NCAA feild you need to win your cupcake games.

  9. DeanForever says:

    This is off the current topic, but has anyone heard about who the Heels will play in their non-conference schedule? I am sorta pressed for time, so I haven’t been able to research this, but who are UNC obligate to play (per 2,3, or more years scheduling agreements)?

    Also, we really need to kick it up a notch in the non-conference schedule. While, I don’t doubt Roy and staff in this department, last year’s NCS was weak by comparison to the NCS that May, Felton, and Co. has been through. Ohio State and Kentucky looked good on paper (when I first viewed the schedule), as did potential matchups with Louisville and/or BYU. Kent State and Davidson were, in retrospect, great wins. However, the 2005 team had to go through Iowa, Kentucky, Indiana, Connecticut, and Tennessee before the ACC had even begun. It just so happened that the Heels final four games in the NCAA were against Big Ten and/or Big East opponents. That early-season experience paid off when the Heels needed to win despite themselves (Villanova), or take defensive teams out of their games (Wisconsin), or make necessary adjustments (Michigan St), or to win two halves playing different games (Illinois).

    So, any idea who we may see in the NCS next year?

  10. Tar Heel Fan says:

    According to Inside Carolina this is what to expect next season:

    LOOKING AHEAD TO 2008-09

    UNC will play in the Maui Invitational on Nov. 24-26. Other participants in the tournament are Alabama, Indiana, Notre Dame, Oregon, Saint Joseph’s, Texas and Chaminade.

    The Tar Heels will open the season playing at Cal-Santa Barbara on the way out to Maui. UNC will continue its annual series with Kentucky and will play Michigan State (Dec. 3) at Ford Field in Detroit for the ACC/Big Ten Challenge. The Heels are also scheduled to host Arizona and play Valparaiso at the United Center in Chicago.

    That is a much stronger schedule that last season IMO, especially if they end up playing ND and/or Texas in Maui.

  11. Johnny says:

    They would have had Louisville in Vegas last year if Louisville hadn’t stumbled out of the gate. The Texas game could be a top 5 game if Augustin returns.

  12. Josh Bowling says:

    That’s a big if Johnny. I wish our non conference games would look like sweet 16 and elite 8 matchups. I want Memphis/TN/Arizona/Louisville/UCLA/Kentucky/Florida/UCONN/Texas and teams like that in our non-conference schedule. Yes, a few losses may mean we are not going to be a number one seed, but the ACC hasn’t prepped us well against top tier out of conference teams aka Georgetown/Kansas. Although, we could argue that we beat Georgetown & let them win.

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